Phase 0 scaffold plus everything since: quality negotiation, host-relay, and active drift correction were each built and reverted after real bugs in live use (see PLAN.md for the full account of each). What remains is read-only SyncPlay observability (live drift/playback stats page) and a one-shot manual "sync me to group" action, plus Phase 5 packaging/release tooling (build.yaml, manifest.json generator, Gitea Actions release workflow) to distribute it as a proper plugin repository. Co-Authored-By: Claude Sonnet 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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# JellyfinSyncPlus — Plan
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## Problem
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Jellyfin's built-in SyncPlay drifts noticeably when watching with remote friends
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(tested with 2). Symptom: one participant is consistently ahead or behind the
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others, not just momentarily but persistently.
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## Root cause
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Confirmed against known Jellyfin issues (jellyfin-web#6210, jellyfin#5557,
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jellyfin#7579): when group members end up on different playback paths (one
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Direct Plays, another transcodes -- due to codec/bitrate/device differences),
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the transcoding client's decode/render pipeline runs measurably behind, and
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pause/resume compounds the gap. SyncPlay's own resync mechanism (periodic hard
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seeks) is also fragile and doesn't fully compensate.
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Immediate mitigation (no code, do this first / always): check Dashboard ->
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Active Sessions during a session and confirm all clients show Direct Play, not
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Transcode. Force "Maximum/Original" quality on every client. Fully leave/rejoin
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the SyncPlay group rather than trusting in-place resync.
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## Why build something custom
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Jellyfin's own SyncPlay is the only real option today -- nothing has superseded
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it as of mid-2026. `jellyfin-mpv-shim` is actively maintained (now under the
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official `jellyfin` GitHub org) but rides the same underlying SyncPlay protocol;
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it only helps indirectly by avoiding transcode on capable devices. Standalone
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`syncplay.pl` + Jellyfin direct-stream URLs is undocumented/unproven for this
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use case. So: build a plugin that replaces SyncPlay's weak points rather than
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switching tools.
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## Architecture -- three pillars
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**Status note (2026-07-09):** all three pillars below were built and then
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reverted after real bugs/unwanted behavior in live use (see "Rough phase
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breakdown" for the full account of each). Pillars 1/2: forcing quality/path
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alignment through the `PlaybackInfo` request froze clients on quality
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switches and left them permanently desynced. Pillar 3: a scoped-down active
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seek-correction on top of stock Jellyfin's own (already quite good) client
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correction caused its own feedback-loop problems and, even fixed, wasn't
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what the user wanted in practice. The original rationale is kept below for
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context, but as of this note **the plugin has no active functionality** --
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it's back to the Phase 0 scaffold baseline. Read "Rough phase breakdown" for
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what's actually true today, and don't restart from these designs without
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addressing why each one broke.
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### 1. Group quality negotiation (the easy piece)
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On group formation, resolve each member's device capability/bitrate profile
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(Jellyfin already does this per-client via its existing `GetPlaybackInfo` /
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`DeviceProfile` negotiation -- reuse that logic, don't reinvent it) and pick the
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most restrictive result across the whole group. Every member streams at that
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one common profile.
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### 2. Shared transcode (the hard, novel piece)
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Problem with (1) alone: even at matched quality, N independently-running
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ffmpeg transcode jobs (one per client, Jellyfin's default) have their own
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segment boundaries and start offsets -- literally different encodes, which is
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its own source of drift.
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Jellyfin's `ITranscodeManager` ties one transcode job to one `PlaySessionId` by
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design; there's no built-in dedup for identical (item, profile) requests.
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Patching that is real core surgery -- **not** the v1 approach.
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**Pragmatic v1: host-relay.** One group member is the "host" -- their session
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transcodes/direct-plays completely normally, untouched. The plugin exposes a
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relay API route that proxies the host's already-generated HLS
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playlist/segments to the other group members, so everyone reads byte-identical
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media without touching Jellyfin's transcode internals at all. Gets ~90% of the
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benefit of true shared-session transcoding for a fraction of the engineering
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risk.
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### 3. Active drift correction (still needed even with #1 + #2)
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Identical bytes doesn't mean identical render timing -- per-client network
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fetch latency and decode speed still differ. Needed on top:
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- **Virtual playhead as the single authority.** Server tracks
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`{position, wall-clock timestamp of that position, playing/paused, speed}`
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and computes `expected_position = last_position + (now - last_command_time)`.
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All clients (including the host) sync against this abstraction, never
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against each other -- avoids the host always looking "correct" to itself.
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- **NTP-style clock calibration per client on join** -- ping/pong to estimate
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RTT and clock offset. Needed both for scheduling (below) and for correctly
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interpreting heartbeat reports.
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- **Heartbeats + EMA-smoothed drift.** Each client reports its real
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player-engine position (not a fetch/buffer estimate) every 1-2s. Server
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diffs against the virtual playhead (RTT/2-adjusted) and smooths with an EMA
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filter rather than reacting to every raw sample.
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- **Two-tier correction:**
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- Small drift (~150-300ms): nudge local playback rate briefly
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(1.0 -> ~1.02-1.05x or 0.97x) until closed -- imperceptible, no visible
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jump. (Same trick `syncplay.pl` uses for local-file sync.)
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- Large drift (~1.5-2s+, typically post-stall): hard-seek that client back
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onto the playhead instead -- speed-nudging alone would take too long and
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be noticeable.
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- **Scheduled commands, not "do it now."** Play/pause/seek carry an absolute
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UTC execution timestamp; each client fires locally at exactly `T` using its
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calibrated offset, so message-delivery latency itself isn't a desync source.
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- **Late joiners / reconnects** both reduce to: query current virtual
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playhead, buffer ahead until healthy, join via a scheduled seek to the
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interpolated position.
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## Scope confirmed with user
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- Disconnects, late joiners, seek/pause propagation: in scope for v1.
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- Quality-profile picker menu (AVC-only override etc.): explicitly out of
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scope for the *bot* project (MR-Discord) but not discussed here -- this
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project only forces a common profile for sync purposes, doesn't add a UI
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picker.
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## Target environment (real, not hypothetical)
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- Jellyfin runs in the `entertainment` namespace of the user's k8s cluster,
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image `linuxserver/jellyfin:10.11.6` (pinned -- build the plugin against
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this exact server version's ABI).
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- Config volume: hostPath PVC at `/mnt/redundant/k8s/jellyfin/config`
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(`jellyfin-config-pvc`, `jellyfin-config` StorageClass).
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- Transcoding scratch: hostPath PVC at `/mnt/nvme/k8s/jellyfin/transcoding`
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(`jellyfin-transcoding-pvc`, currently on the `local-retain` StorageClass --
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scheduled for consolidation into `nvme-retain` in the separate,
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paused k8s/entertainment hardening plan, not part of this project).
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See [entertainment/base/jellyfin/deployment.yaml](../entertainment/base/jellyfin/deployment.yaml)
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and [entertainment/base/jellyfin/config-claim.yaml](../entertainment/base/jellyfin/config-claim.yaml).
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- Deployed via ArgoCD, app name `entertainment`. **Does not auto-sync** --
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every deploy needs a manual
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`kubectl patch application entertainment -n argocd --type merge -p '{"operation":{"sync":{"revision":"HEAD"}}}'`
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(same pattern used for MR-Discord releases).
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- Sibling project [MR-Discord](../MR-Discord) already has a working
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tag-push -> Gitea Actions -> build -> deploy pipeline against this same
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cluster; reuse that pattern for this project's releases once it's stable.
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## Dev / test / iterate workflow
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Two different loops -- do not conflate them:
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1. **Fast dev loop (default, use this for almost everything):** run a
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throwaway local Jellyfin container (`docker run linuxserver/jellyfin:10.11.6`,
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same tag as prod -- avoids ABI surprises) with the plugins folder
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bind-mounted. Loop: `dotnet build` -> copy DLL into the mounted folder ->
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restart the local container -> check logs -> test. Jellyfin has no plugin
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hot-reload, so a restart is unavoidable per change, but a local container
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restart is seconds, not a k8s rollout.
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2. **Milestone testing against the real pod (deliberate, ask first):** copy
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the built plugin into the real hostPath config dir on the node, then
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`kubectl rollout restart deployment/jellyfin -n entertainment`. This
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briefly interrupts the live, shared Jellyfin instance -- **do not do this
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routinely; only for actual multi-friend sync test sessions, and confirm
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with the user first.**
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3. **Release distribution (later, once stable):** package as a versioned zip
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+ `meta.json`, host a plugin-repository manifest via Gitea (raw file URLs
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or release attachments both work, Jellyfin just needs HTTP(S) access to
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the manifest + zip), add the repo URL in Jellyfin's dashboard. Mirrors
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MR-Discord's tag -> Gitea Actions -> build pipeline, just producing a
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plugin zip instead of a Docker image. Slow iteration loop -- not for
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development, only for shipping tested versions.
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## Known friction / risks (flagged going in, not discovered later)
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- **ABI/version pinning**: `meta.json`'s `targetAbi` must match the running
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server version. Already fine since the deployment is pinned to `10.11.6`,
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not floating -- build against that exact version's SDK.
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- **Reaches past the stable plugin API -- narrower than originally assumed.**
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Verified during Phase 1: `ISyncPlayManager`, `IGroupStateContext`,
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`GroupInfoDto`, and all the `IGroupPlaybackRequest` DTOs *are* public in the
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`Jellyfin.Controller` NuGet package -- group internals aren't actually
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hidden. What *is* missing from the SDK is the concrete implementations:
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`Emby.Server.Implementations.SyncPlay.SyncPlayManager` (needed to decorate
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`ISyncPlayManager` without reimplementing group logic) and
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`Jellyfin.Api.Controllers.MediaInfoController` /
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`Jellyfin.Api.Models.MediaInfoDtos.PlaybackInfoDto` (needed to target the
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PlaybackInfo action with an MVC filter). Both are public classes but ship
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only inside the server image, not as NuGet packages. Working solution:
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extract the two DLLs straight from the pinned `linuxserver/jellyfin:10.11.6`
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image (`docker cp <container>:/usr/lib/jellyfin/bin/{Emby.Server.Implementations,Jellyfin.Api}.dll`)
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into `lib/jellyfin-10.11.6/` and reference them as `<Reference Private="false">`
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-- compile-time only, since they're already loaded in the host process at
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runtime. No source checkout/submodule needed after all; re-extract these two
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files if the pinned server version ever changes. See `src/JellyfinSyncPlus/SyncPlay/`
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for the resulting decorator (`SyncPlusSyncPlayManager`) and MVC filter
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(`SyncPlusPlaybackInfoFilter`).
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- Host-relay approach (pillar 2) means the "host" member is a single point of
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failure for the group's stream -- needs a defined handoff/reselection
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behavior if the host disconnects mid-session (not just late-joiners).
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## Rough phase breakdown
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- **Phase 0 -- scaffold & dev loop. DONE.** `dotnet` plugin project scaffold
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against `Jellyfin.Controller`/`Jellyfin.Model` 10.11.6 (public SDK was
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sufficient for this trivial plugin), local docker dev Jellyfin
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(`linuxserver/jellyfin:10.11.6`) with bind-mounted plugins folder, confirmed
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via container logs: `Loaded plugin: JellyfinSyncPlus 0.1.0.0`. Gotcha
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discovered: in `linuxserver/jellyfin`, the real plugins directory is
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`/config/data/plugins`, **not** `/config/plugins` (the latter exists but is
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unused/dead) -- `dev/docker-compose.yml` bind-mounts to the correct path
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now, don't regress this on a future compose edit.
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- **Phase 1 -- group quality negotiation. REVERTED 2026-07-09, superseded by
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Phase 3's approach below.** Built and live-verified (bitrate cap negotiation
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via `GroupQualityStore`/`SyncPlusPlaybackInfoFilter`, working correctly
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against real multi-device sessions -- see git history for the full account
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if this needs resurrecting). Torn out after a real, serious bug surfaced in
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actual use: switching quality mid-playback forces Jellyfin to issue a new
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`PlaySessionId` and reinitialize the player; our filter mutating that
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request made the client freeze on the switch and then **never resync
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afterward** -- worse than the drift it was meant to prevent. Root problem
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wasn't the negotiation math, it was forcing anything through the
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`PlaybackInfo` request/response path at all, since Jellyfin has no seam
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there for a plugin to intervene without looking, to the client, exactly
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like a user-initiated quality change. Replaced by active, corrective
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drift-correction instead of preventive path-forcing (Phase 3).
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- **Phase 2 -- host-relay shared transcode. REVERTED 2026-07-09, same
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reason as Phase 1** (the relay redirect went through the same
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`PlaybackInfo` response mutation that caused the freeze/permanent-desync
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bug). The engineering was sound and fully live-verified end-to-end
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against real video (real bug found and fixed along the way: browsers
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fetch HLS playlist/segment URLs with no auth header, only Jellyfin's
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`ApiKey=` query-param convention, which the relay didn't originally
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include) -- but it's not worth resurrecting unless a future need
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specifically requires deduplicating transcode load across a group, since
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Phase 3's correction now handles the drift problem this was meant to
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solve, without the instability. See git history for the implementation if
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transcode load dedup becomes a real requirement later.
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- **Phase 3 -- active drift correction. TRIED, REVERTED 2026-07-09.** Built a
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scoped-down version of this section's original plan (server watches
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standard `PlaybackProgress` reports, seeks back any member who drifts more
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than 3 seconds ahead of the group's laggard, one-directional only, plus a
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toast notification -- all via existing Jellyfin mechanisms, no custom
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client). Confirmed along the way that stock Jellyfin's web client already
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ships real NTP-style clock sync and two-tier correction
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(`syncPlay-core-PlaybackCore.*.chunk.js`, `SpeedToSync`/`SkipToSync`, with
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a real settings UI) and keeps steady-state drift bounded to ~70-340ms on
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its own -- that finding still stands and is worth remembering if this gets
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revisited. But the *active* correction on top of it didn't hold up in
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real use: a manual timeline seek triggered a feedback loop (fixed once --
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needed a per-device cooldown and to stop trusting an optimistically-
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written position as the "laggard" reference -- see git history for the
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full bug writeup) and even after that fix the user's call was that the
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behavior still wasn't right in practice. Pulled entirely rather than
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chase it further: `SyncPlusDriftCorrector`, `SyncPlusSyncPlayManager`,
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`IGroupMembershipStore`/`GroupMembershipStore`, and the
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`Emby.Server.Implementations.dll` reference they needed are all gone. The
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plugin is back to the Phase 0 baseline: loads, does nothing. All three
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original pillars (quality negotiation, host-relay, active correction)
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have now been tried and reverted -- see git history for any of them if a
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future direction wants to resurrect pieces, but don't restart from these
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designs without addressing why each one broke in real use (see the
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Phase 1/2 entries above and this one).
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- **Phase 4 -- disconnects, late joiners, seek/pause polish.**
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- **Phase 5 -- packaging & release pipeline.** Gitea-hosted plugin repository
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manifest, versioned zip releases, mirroring MR-Discord's pipeline.
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## Stats for nerds (added 2026-07-09, outside the original three-pillar scope)
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**DONE, live-verified.** After all three active-intervention pillars got
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reverted, the next thing built was purely observational instead: a
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YouTube-"stats for nerds"-style live view of every SyncPlay group's members,
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their drift relative to each other, and their playback method/bitrate/codec.
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Deliberately has zero effect on playback -- it only reads
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`ISessionManager.Sessions` live on each request, no in-memory state, no
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corrective action -- so it can't have the feedback-loop or freeze failure
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modes the reverted features did.
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- `SyncPlusStatsController` (`GET /SyncPlus/Stats`, admin-only via
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`MediaBrowser.Common.Api.Policies.RequiresElevation`) returns a live JSON
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snapshot: for each SyncPlay group (from the passive `IGroupMembershipStore`/
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`SyncPlusSyncPlayManager` tracking -- same decorator pattern as before,
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minus anything that mutates a request or issues a command), each member's
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device/user name, now-playing item, position, drift in ms versus the
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group's laggard, pause state, play method, and transcode
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bitrate/codec/container/reason.
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- **Real blocker found and worked around**: originally built as an
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interactive plugin config page (`configPage.html`, reachable from
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Dashboard -> Plugins), but its inline `<script>` never ran -- confirmed
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live by inspecting the actual DOM after injection: 0 `<script>` elements
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survived. Jellyfin's web client runs plugin config page HTML through
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DOMPurify before injecting it into the SPA, which strips script tags
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entirely (also confirmed the older `pageshow`/`pagehide` custom events
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legacy plugin pages relied on aren't dispatched by the current
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React-based client either -- tried that first, same silent no-op result).
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No script tag survives that DOMPurify pass, regardless of what would have
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triggered it.
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- **Fix**: serve the interactive page as a genuine standalone HTML response
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instead (`GET /SyncPlus/Stats/Page`, `[AllowAnonymous]` since the page
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shell itself has nothing sensitive in it) -- a real page navigation isn't
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run through the SPA's sanitizer, so inline `<script>` works normally
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there. The page reads the current user's token straight out of the same
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`jellyfin_credentials` localStorage entry the main web client itself uses
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(same origin, so no separate login needed as long as the admin is already
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logged into Jellyfin in that browser) and uses it to poll the real,
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auth-gated `/SyncPlus/Stats` endpoint every second. The plugin's actual
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Dashboard config page is now just a static link to this standalone page --
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static HTML links work fine even with scripts stripped.
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- **Live-verified 2026-07-09**: confirmed the DOMPurify script-stripping
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diagnosis directly (0 script tags in the post-injection DOM), confirmed
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the standalone page loads and polls correctly (timestamp advancing
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second-to-second, no console errors), and confirmed a real SyncPlay group
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join shows up correctly in the JSON response (device/user name populated
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immediately; position/bitrate fields are null until actual playback
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starts, which is correct -- there's nothing to report yet).
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- Not yet tested: real multi-device drift numbers (only one browser session
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was available this round) and the config-page link's `target="_blank"`
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actually opening a new tab in a real browser (vs. this session's
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single-tab preview environment, where it was verified by direct
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navigation instead).
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- **Real bug found and fixed same day**: the stats page's JS assumed
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camelCase JSON property names (`group.members`, `m.deviceId`), but
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Jellyfin's API serializes in PascalCase (`Members`, `DeviceId`) --
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confirmed against the actual response body, which had been sitting right
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there in an earlier curl test output the whole time. Threw `Cannot read
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properties of undefined (reading 'forEach')` as soon as a real group
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existed to render. Fixed by matching the JS property access to the DTOs
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exactly; worth double-checking actual response shapes against assumptions
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before shipping JS that consumes them, not just assuming a convention.
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- **Manual "sync me" button added 2026-07-09.** User-requested: a one-shot,
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human-triggered action to fix your own drift on demand, as an alternative
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to the automatic corrector that got reverted for looping. `POST
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/SyncPlus/Stats/Sync` -- any authenticated user (not admin-gated like
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`GetStats`, since it only ever touches the caller's own session) seeks
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their own device to match whoever else in their group is furthest behind,
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using the exact same single-session `SendSyncPlayCommand` seek mechanism
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the reverted auto-corrector used. The difference that matters: this only
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ever fires once, when a human clicks a button -- there's no "again" until
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someone clicks again, so it structurally can't produce the
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re-correct-faster-than-the-previous-seek-lands feedback loop that broke
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the automatic version. No-ops safely (with an explanatory message, not an
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error) if the caller isn't in a group, isn't playing anything, or is
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already at or behind the group's laggard -- never pulls
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anyone but the caller, and never moves the caller forward past the
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laggard's position (same spoiler-avoidance principle as before). Button
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added to the stats page (`/SyncPlus/Stats/Page`).
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Live-verified 2026-07-09: confirmed both no-op paths fire correctly and
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with the right message ("not in a group", "nothing playing on this
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device"). Not yet tested: the actual successful-correction path with a
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real drifted second device (only one browser session available this
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round, same recurring constraint as everything else that needs two real
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logins).
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## Open questions (revisit before/at the relevant phase, not now)
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- Exact client compatibility target for v1 -- web client only, or also
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`jellyfin-mpv-shim`/mobile apps? (Web client is simplest to control fully;
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others may need companion-side changes.)
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- Host reselection policy on disconnect -- pick another member automatically,
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or pause the group and prompt?
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